View Full Version : Natural 20's are broken

01-23-2013, 11:14 AM
Hey Cryptozoic, Im enjoying this game. I'm playing in a mini league with some guys and the consensus is that Natural 20 is broken.

With a Werewolf and five Natural 20's, you can get 96 tokens and 96 power (probably, never got that specific hand before, but I got 50 tokens once and a guy got 200 tokens once, http://twitter.com/ironcub14/status/294144740268601344/photo/1). Guess which card everybody goes for any game the 20's are involved. It ain't the Giant Cupcakes..

A easy quick fix could be to change the rule for the card so that the doubling effect from each Natural 20 can only be applied to one card only in the hand; my second 20 can only be applied to a second card in my hand, etc... If there are too many Natural 20s in my hand and tere's no more cards o apply the 20, then the player simply becomes unable to use the leftover 20s. What do u guys think?

01-23-2013, 11:51 AM

01-23-2013, 01:24 PM
Fortunately, Natural 20 and Werewolf with a Top Hat don't always come up together in the stacks.
A hand of 5 Nat 20's and 1 Werewolf is a bit of an anomaly.
When playing 2-player games, there is little competition for cards, so these crazy combos can come up. Try 4-player if you want to put a check on any overpowered card.

01-23-2013, 02:26 PM
Wow, cleaned up the board, should be an achivement or smth lol.

Thanks for the reply Matt. I was just taking an example with the hypothetical hand, but you can see from the two screenshots, and I'm sure there are more of those, that Natural 20's lends itself to way too many ridiculous combos, compared to any other card in the game.

Unfortunately, our league only plays 2-player games.. but thanks for the suggestion. I don't expect any changes to the card but I did want to put my suggestion out there, cheers.

07-05-2013, 04:23 PM
It's actually not an anomaly. If you reduce the number of cards in your deck early in the game (by deleting the weak cards) and stack your deck with Natural 20s and one Werewolf, it's super easy to get the combo. I do it all the time.