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Storm_Fireblade
05-09-2013, 02:39 AM
I figured it might be reasonable to open a thread to discuss/address already known cards, especially with the beta still closed and no "bug / suggestion forum"-forum open at the moment.

"Runts of the Litter" --> This Basic Action says "Create three Battle Hoppers". Those are 0 ATK 1 DEF creatures, but it doesn't say so on the card itself. It might already have been changed, but I figured it cannot hurt to mention it anyway to make sure it doesn't go unnoticed.

Emitan
05-09-2013, 02:40 AM
The cards seem to not be as descriptive as they could be. Probably because it's not a physical game and the computer will take care of token creation and things like that but it sounds like one would need to rely on an outside wiki or something to now exact card effects.

Storm_Fireblade
05-09-2013, 02:46 AM
This shouldn't be an issue, even if it is a digital game. A card, that says "Create three Battle Hoppers", has to explain, what that excactly means, because otherwise it doesn't make sense to include it for a player. It is a TCG and not a lottery. Battle Hoppers could be 3 ATK 3 DEF guys for all you know. I agree, checking the mana costs does make it look unreasonable, but we shouldn't have to guess the outcome of a card unless it really is something, that says "50 / 50 chance for either option" or anything like that :)

Fireblast
05-09-2013, 03:00 AM
I think since it's digital, you'll just mouseouver "Battle Hoppers" and see a description pop up

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Mehlo
05-09-2013, 06:55 AM
Yea, legends of norrath does a similar thing, you just mouse over the card name of the change. I'm thinking that in the actual game, deck editor, collection, etc, it will be easy to see refrence cards.

Storm_Fireblade
05-09-2013, 08:13 AM
You seem to be correct here, yeah. I watched the gameplay video once more and looking carefully at the card at 3:48 it seems that the name "Battle Hoppers" itself does indicate a link there, so if so, this matter is already addresed of course :)

Storm_Fireblade
05-09-2013, 08:31 AM
Is it just me or does the "Petulant Wyldebeest" look incredible strong? A 3/3 with speed for 1 mana, which at the end of the turn goes into your deck as a 6/6 with speed for 1 mana?

http://hextcg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/PetulantWylde_Gear_Web.png

But since it offers equipment slots as well, I guess its a PvE-only card, which of course does make it look totally different balancing wise.

Mehlo
05-09-2013, 08:33 AM
Just because it offers Equipment doesnt mean it's PvE only. Look at the pvp cards listed on the kicstarter backer page, and they all have equipment as well.

Mehlo
05-09-2013, 08:35 AM
And as for it's power, a one drop 3/3 with haste and essentially lasts one turn is powerful, but it's similar ish in power to a 3 damage dd spell or some such. The going back in the deck thing is powerful, but since that is kinda new to this game i'm curious to how they will play with the power structure.

Storm_Fireblade
05-09-2013, 08:50 AM
Just because it offers Equipment doesnt mean it's PvE only. Look at the pvp cards listed on the kicstarter backer page, and they all have equipment as well.

You are correct, yeah. It seems cards for PvP do provide equipment-slots as well, but as it says HERE (http://hextcg.com/equipment/) --> "Equipment is exclusive to the PVE campaign."

So you simply cannot use the equipment from those cards while playing a pvp match.

I do think though, that a one drop 3/3 with speed for one turn, thats goes back into the deck once and is a one drop 6/6 with haste after that is incredibly strong.

But I do agree, that with all the permanent increase of attack and defense in this game, we might have to get used to a different power structure at first :)

Mehlo
05-09-2013, 09:04 AM
Yea, everything seems very magic ish, just a lil bit stronger. I noticed that when i saw wild growth (+4/+4 to target creature until end of turn, 1 wild threshold, 1 cost) and couldnt help but compare it to magic's giant growth (+3/+3 to target creature until end of turn, 1 green)

MattyTheSquid
05-09-2013, 09:16 AM
I think since it's digital, you'll just mouseouver "Battle Hoppers" and see a description pop up

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Just wanted to confirm that this is the case. The bolded name is to indicate that you'll be able to hover over it for more info. This lets us shave a few words from the text box to keep things short and sweet, and also lets us present the information in a more organic way (it's much easier to process what a Battle Hopper is by looking at the card rather than by reading a jumble of words and numbers.)

OP_Kyle
05-09-2013, 09:22 AM
I figured it might be reasonable to open a thread to discuss/address already known cards, especially with the beta still closed and no "bug / suggestion forum"-forum open at the moment.

"Runts of the Litter" --> This Basic Action says "Create three Battle Hoppers". Those are 0 ATK 1 DEF creatures, but it doesn't say so on the card itself. It might already have been changed, but I figured it cannot hurt to mention it anyway to make sure it doesn't go unnoticed.

Being digital, you'll be able to mouse over the words "Battle Hoppers" and it will create a pop up that shows you the card it creates. This allows us to leave room for gameplay. Hope that helps.