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OmarEpps
05-31-2013, 05:54 AM
Just wanted to take a moment to give it up to the Hex team for not following the common trend of over-sexualizing women and subtly (or not so subtly) injecting misogyny into the art work of their TCG. It has been all too common in Magic, especially with artists like Steve Argyle, to do that and it's refreshing and dope to see Hex not following the same footsteps.

How the fuck you going into battle with your stomach exposed? Vital organs and shit in there use your head lol.

Stok3d
05-31-2013, 05:58 AM
Omar, I commend you on the efforts you've done in the kickstarter threads. You've been a long standing activist there. However, your last two threads I've seen in here with trying to steer the Art one way or another have been garbage. The Hex Art I've seen has been amazing.


It's getting to a point that I believe you're trolling...

Fireblast
05-31-2013, 06:00 AM
It's getting to a point that I believe you're trolling...

He's Yasi

~

Talreth
05-31-2013, 06:00 AM
Omar, I commend you on the efforts you've done in the kickstarter threads. You've been a long standing activist there. However, your last two threads I've seen in here with trying to steer the Art one way or another have been garbage. The Hex Art I've seen has been amazing.


It's getting to a point that I believe you're trolling...

If you read any of his posts on the forums I don't know how you haven't thought that yet.

AstaSyneri
05-31-2013, 06:02 AM
I love Steve Argyle's art. Period. :D And the guy himself is great, too. If you are at GenCon, look him up and buy some of his art!

Fireblast
05-31-2013, 06:04 AM
http://www.steveargyle.com/gallery/?page=1
No tits at all, was kinda disappointed.

~

katkillad
05-31-2013, 06:06 AM
Claims of misogyny while having the word "titties" in your title. /golfclap

We really need a report button.

OmarEpps
05-31-2013, 06:10 AM
Omar, I commend you on the efforts you've done in the kickstarter threads. You've been a long standing activist there. However, your last two threads I've seen in here with trying to steer the Art one way or another have been garbage. The Hex Art I've seen has been amazing.


It's getting to a point that I believe you're trolling...

If you step your reading comprehension game up I was saying Hex has been doing a great job with their art and I applaud them for it.

Now go on eBay and continue buying your Hentai sleeves and commissioning Argyle to turn your grip of Lili's into nude versions of the girls from Charmed, you smelly nerd.

Punk
05-31-2013, 06:13 AM
He's Yasi

~

He's more annoying.

Fireblast
05-31-2013, 06:15 AM
He's more annoying.

True, Yasi didn't have 2 inches of stupid sig

~

OmarEpps
05-31-2013, 06:18 AM
Fireblast I hope to God we get to 1.8 million so I don't have to wait to Beta to kick your ass.

NaryaDL0re
05-31-2013, 06:52 AM
Anyone else wholeheartedly disagrees with the OP?

I dont even know where to begin to point out all the usual
flaws in logic that are inherent to any overvaluation of our bodys.
(Not saying I dont value mine, but I hope you get what I mean ;O)

As long as it doesnt reach the limit of abundance to the point where
every titt and ass loses all stimulating meaning, I m all for stylized super-fantasy.

And just to be sure we dont misunderstand each other:
Please make sure every male is as stylized and satisfying for the female audience
as the ladies are for us =).

OmarEpps
05-31-2013, 07:05 AM
No, the OP is right.

NaryaDL0re
05-31-2013, 07:12 AM
logic...
curses foiled again.

Stok3d
05-31-2013, 07:13 AM
No, the OP is right.

Oh look, the troll is having to feed himself to keep his threads bumped.

BohemianStalker
05-31-2013, 07:13 AM
No, the OP is right.

this

Niedar
05-31-2013, 07:17 AM
Sexualized women is ok if there is a reason for them to be sexualized the same as sexualized men is ok if there is a reason for them to be sexualized. The problem is that 99% of the time its the case that there is no reason for most of the women depicted in the gaming industry to be sexualized and at the same time the men are not sexualized at all. So a woman wearing armor should not be showing belly or showing her breasts off because functionally it makes no sense and is done for no other reason than to objectify women. If the character being depicted were for example a Siren then it makes perfect sense. I think so far I have been pretty happy with what I heave seen from the artwork in Hex so far although I have not analyzed it all yet.

NaryaDL0re
05-31-2013, 07:25 AM
Sexualized women is ok if there is a reason for them to be sexualized the same as sexualized men is ok if there is a reason for them to be sexualized. The problem is that 99% of the time its the case that there is no reason for most of the women depicted in the gaming industry to be sexualized and at the same time the men are not sexualized at all. So a woman wearing armor should not be showing belly or showing her breasts off because functionally it makes no sense and is done for no other reason than to objectify women. If the character being depicted were for example a Siren then it makes perfect sense. I think so far I have been pretty happy with what I heave seen from the artwork in Hex so far although I have not analyzed it all yet.

The reason a card looks the way it does, is always the same. Please the player aesthetically.

Being a sucker for some kind of justification "inside" the gaming world it portrays is fine and all,
but really you can make any excuse you want.

"The girl is showing skin because it detracts her opponents more than armor would."

"The girl is showing skin because its easier to move this way and she prefers dodging."

".... because the magic in her armor/soul/world/sword protects her anyways and she finds it pretty"

"....because she is stupid and prefered to look good over real protection"

"...because her captain is a sexist genius and loves the playerbase of the game more than the poor girl".

OmarEpps
05-31-2013, 07:29 AM
Sexualized women is ok if there is a reason for them to be sexualized the same as sexualized men is ok if there is a reason for them to be sexualized. The problem is that 99% of the time its the case that there is no reason for most of the women depicted in the gaming industry to be sexualized and at the same time the men are not sexualized at all. So a woman wearing armor should not be showing belly or showing her breasts off because functionally it makes no sense and is done for no other reason than to objectify women. If the character being depicted were for example a Siren then it makes perfect sense. I think so far I have been pretty happy with what I heave seen from the artwork in Hex so far although I have not analyzed it all yet.


Yes, this.

Again, let me be clear, Hex is doing it right, and I just wanted to take a moment to acknowledge that because I feel that not too many companies strive for that and it also often goes unnoticed.

HEX ROCKS.

katkillad
05-31-2013, 07:31 AM
Too bad you did this thread wrong.

OmarEpps
05-31-2013, 07:38 AM
Um, too bad your parents conceived you wrong. Your dad should have pulled out. And then cut his sack off, just to ensure you were never produced.

NaryaDL0re
05-31-2013, 07:40 AM
That sounds lovely contradictorily with your general sentiment towards these topics <3.

Mushroom_C1oud
05-31-2013, 07:46 AM
OmarEpps, I liked you when you first starting posting but your posts have become very vulgar and inappropriate. That's really too bad cause you've just lost all your credibility.

jai151
05-31-2013, 07:48 AM
Guys, really?

CZE has been nice enough to leave us an unfiltered forum with very little banhammer swinging (aside from a threat here and there), and threads like this are how we repay them?

Let's tone down the personal attacks and the language so they don't have to put us into a police state. Show a little respect for our hosts and our fellow members of the community.

NaryaDL0re
05-31-2013, 08:06 AM
Nice boyscouting, but I fail to see the point.
Outside of some very minor quarreling no biggies have been thrown.

At least I m not conscious of any major insults outside of
pointing out some obvious idiocies.

And so far no disrespekt has been taken by me either. Its his legit opinion
to rather live in a world without humans capable of consistent logic.

So all in all, aside from this thread being relatively low on reasoning I dont
see any point in condemning it.

So instead of doing so, why not put in your 2 cent? whats your opinion on the topic?

(unless you actually are criticizing "titts/ass"... ... .... ........... ..... .... ... on a ....?"

Zomnivore
05-31-2013, 08:07 AM
I think this a fair thing to argue about in general, although I think its annoying as all hell to keep hearing the yays nays and self righteous inbetweeners.

I'm really apathetic at this point, sex sells there's a way to do it tastefully and if they give a fair shot at doing it tastefully I'm not going to work up the effort to care.

tgm0112
05-31-2013, 08:14 AM
Sexualized women is ok if there is a reason for them to be sexualized the same as sexualized men is ok if there is a reason for them to be sexualized. The problem is that 99% of the time its the case that there is no reason for most of the women depicted in the gaming industry to be sexualized and at the same time the men are not sexualized at all. So a woman wearing armor should not be showing belly or showing her breasts off because functionally it makes no sense and is done for no other reason than to objectify women. If the character being depicted were for example a Siren then it makes perfect sense. I think so far I have been pretty happy with what I heave seen from the artwork in Hex so far although I have not analyzed it all yet.

This is exactly what I wanted to write up. Can't say it better. If it has a reason, that doesn't stretch the imagination...


Being a sucker for some kind of justification "inside" the gaming world it portrays is fine and all,
but really you can make any excuse you want.

"The girl is showing skin because it detracts her opponents more than armor would."

"The girl is showing skin because its easier to move this way and she prefers dodging."

".... because the magic in her armor/soul/world/sword protects her anyways and she finds it pretty"

"....because she is stupid and prefered to look good over real protection"

"...because her captain is a sexist genius and loves the playerbase of the game more than the poor girl".

Of course you can make up a valid excuse for any representation. I could write a deadpan novel about a man sworn to avenge his parents with his dead mother's purple dildo as a weapon. However, as in your points and that novel's case, some excuses are weak at best and break the seriousness and immersion of the world we're venturing into.

For examples, see Tera or, worse still, Scarlet Blade. No manner of delusion can detract from the objectification and blatant pandering to base instinct. Sexuality is a real and powerful part of the human experience, but it can be done maturely or childishly. A character with reasons to be more overt (e.g. sirens) is more in keeping with a sensible world than a war general leading her troops into battle with a Medieval tube top. Men in the heat of battle are not wont to become distracted by arousal; not selling that as a viable strategy.

Jetsetneo
05-31-2013, 08:18 AM
Well now I'll never get my sexy steve argyle Concubunny alt art.

jai151
05-31-2013, 08:23 AM
Narya, unless you have Omar on ignore, just about every post he's made in this thread has been a direct insult.

As for the topic, it's art. Art is all about aesthetics, realism takes a back seat. As long as the image looks good (rather than some of the infamously bad Magic artists out there) and evokes the spirit of the card, that's all I care about.

rwmwaffle
05-31-2013, 08:26 AM
Im seeing a lot of hate being thrown Omar's way. The guy just tired to set up a fund to take care of pledge that im going to have to drop because i just got laid off. You haters better hope I DON'T have the money to get into this game or i will take pleasure in stomping you on his behalf.

Genocidal
05-31-2013, 08:29 AM
Im seeing a lot of hate being thrown Omar's way. The guy just tired to set up a fund to take care of pledge that im going to have to drop because i just got laid off. You haters better hope I DON'T have the money to get into this game or i will take pleasure in stomping you on his behalf.
Offering to do a good thing doesn't excuse him from acting the way he does at other times. You see nothing wrong with the following post?

Um, too bad your parents conceived you wrong. Your dad should have pulled out. And then cut his sack off, just to ensure you were never produced.

rwmwaffle
05-31-2013, 08:34 AM
Offering to do a good thing doesn't excuse him from acting the way he does at other times. You see nothing wrong with the following post?

I've been playing TCG's for about 12 years and an online gamer since the birth of the 56k modem, including being a competitive Counter-Strike player. I have said worse and been called worse so that really doesn't bother me in the slightest. I can see why it would bother some but take it to the moderators if its that big a deal.

OmarEpps
05-31-2013, 08:34 AM
Narya, unless you have Omar on ignore, just about every post he's made in this thread has been a direct insult.

As for the topic, it's art. Art is all about aesthetics, realism takes a back seat. As long as the image looks good (rather than some of the infamously bad Magic artists out there) and evokes the spirit of the card, that's all I care about.

Yeah, and that makes you a piece of shit.

"As long as the art looks good, I don't care what it enforces about or culture or the inherent values it will or will not promote."

Use your head, dude.

NaryaDL0re
05-31-2013, 08:35 AM
I dont have him on ignore, seeing as I directly corrospond with him ^^.
However I fail to see any gravity in his statements.

Its like calling a child flinging a lolly at you violence. It doesnt really do it justice.

@tgm0112

I tried to make a point. Not give 5 examples for you to more or less prove wrong.
Its up to your personal creativity to find reasonable explanations for nudity in games. If you feel the need at all.

If you are trapt in the sad space between having a subconsciousness conditioned to detest,
doubt, ridicule or devaluate any form of suspicious(not in your private bedroom or porn) nudity,
are also reliant on a high level of immersion in a game (which doesnt need to be a bad thing),
yet are either not creative enough(;/) or dont wish to spent the energy to find suitable explanations
for the nudity in the game (fair point); than I indeed fear that we have concluded a conflict of interests.

Again, explaining in its entirety why its a good thing to be capable of reifying takes too long.
And personally I prefer any fantasy world where 9 out of 10 females are 11/10s.
Not only doesnt it hurt my immersion (what could motivate me more to feel immersed...),
but it also doesnt conflict with any moral or ethical views of the world I agree with.

Please dont take offense to the obviously superficial hyperbole I use at certain points.
It would take half a lifetime to get to know you and do your character justice, so for the time
being this will have to make do.

(the reason I post is because I love Omars posts right now. They are soo insanely
offensive and shortsighted that you HAVE to assume hes a troll. Yet he discredits
a whole guild and seems almost motivated enough to be believing in himself...)

jai151
05-31-2013, 08:35 AM
Im seeing a lot of hate being thrown Omar's way. The guy just tired to set up a fund to take care of pledge that im going to have to drop because i just got laid off. You haters better hope I DON'T have the money to get into this game or i will take pleasure in stomping you on his behalf.

There's a big difference between hate and distaste.

I have nothing against the guy. I just am not a fan of how he has conducted himself recently.

jai151
05-31-2013, 08:40 AM
Yeah, and that makes you a piece of [edit].

"As long as the art looks good, I don't care what it enforces about or culture or the inherent values it will or will not promote."

Use your head, dude.

That's a hell of a leap in logic to make there. Is the David denigrating men because his (with a nod to Jeremy Clarkson) gentleman's sausage is hanging out?

rwmwaffle
05-31-2013, 08:40 AM
There's a big difference between hate and distaste.

I have nothing against the guy. I just am not a fan of how he has conducted himself recently.

Now that is a fair and reasonable view. I personally am of the view that every successful esport needs its villians. Idra, Destiny, Hotshotgg, SaintViscious...these people have brought countless eyes to their games that likely wouldn't have otherwise.

katkillad
05-31-2013, 08:45 AM
If you can't debate without personal attacks or get your point across without using inappropriate language, you need to grow up.

tgm0112
05-31-2013, 08:46 AM
I've been playing TCG's for about 12 years and an online gamer since the birth of the 56k modem, including being a competitive Counter-Strike player. I have said worse and been called worse so that really doesn't bother me in the slightest. I can see why it would bother some but take it to the moderators if its that big a deal.

It does not become acceptable unless we let it be so. That kind of talk is exactly why some shooters are alienating to a lot of people, myself included. Hearing someone spout about what a lovely time they had with my mother because they lost at a game is unsportsmanlike at best. It has nothing to do with their skill at the game being played and purely emitting or attempting to evoke an emotional response.

If you resort to this behavior, I really wish for better participants in our community than you. But I think if you pause for a moment you'd recognize that this is not excusable by any means. I have a thick shell and have never been hurt by anything someone said to me on XBLA. That doesn't mean the experience was ever edifying either.


Yeah, and that makes you a piece of shit.

"As long as the art looks good, I don't care what it enforces about or culture or the inherent values it will or will not promote."

Use your head, dude.

Your second comment is a point. Your first one is simply ad hominem. :/


EDIT: @NaryaDL0re

I don't have anything against attractive women being prominent in a game nor with sexuality by any means. I was in my local Rocky Horror Picture Show cast, so I have no aversion to over-sexualization as a theme. The world of Hex is one of war between disparate races in that medieval-fantasy setting we're all too familiar with. As I said, sexuality has a place in the human experience, but it can be done tastefully. This involves not having to stretch our imaginations as to why a duelist might cover everything but her most vital organs in plate mail. I've seen no such examples in this game, but they exist elsewhere and so the concern is valid.

NaryaDL0re
05-31-2013, 08:52 AM
Damn, and here I thought no one in this thread would use the lovely phrase "ad hominem".
Now the "other side" (yeah I forgot for the moment that we are arguing ;P) will have all the
emotional excuses to call us fake, wannabe eloquent etc...

Always remember, ad hominem is no phrase that anyone that needs to be told can
either understand or emotionally accept. so the phrase is a little bit ad absurdum ;P...
Unless you whish to cantingly talk above their heads in the firstplace...

tgm0112
05-31-2013, 08:59 AM
Always remember, ad hominem is no phrase that anyone that needs to be told can
either understand or emotionally accept. so the phrase is a little bit ad absurdum ;P...
Unless you whish to cantingly talk above their heads in the firstplace...

Hahahahaha! Love it. I will still, naively, use it ad nauseam.

rwmwaffle
05-31-2013, 09:07 AM
It does not become acceptable unless we let it be so. That kind of talk is exactly why some shooters are alienating to a lot of people, myself included. Hearing someone spout about what a lovely time they had with my mother because they lost at a game is unsportsmanlike at best. It has nothing to do with their skill at the game being played and purely emitting or attempting to evoke an emotional response.

If you resort to this behavior, I really wish for better participants in our community than you. But I think if you pause for a moment you'd recognize that this is not excusable by any means. I have a thick shell and have never been hurt by anything someone said to me on XBLA. That doesn't mean the experience was ever edifying either.



Your second comment is a point. Your first one is simply ad hominem. :/


EDIT: @NaryaDL0re

I don't have anything against attractive women being prominent in a game nor with sexuality by any means. I was in my local Rocky Horror Picture Show cast, so I have no aversion to over-sexualization as a theme. The world of Hex is one of war between disparate races in that medieval-fantasy setting we're all too familiar with. As I said, sexuality has a place in the human experience, but it can be done tastefully. This involves not having to stretch our imaginations as to why a duelist might cover everything but her most vital organs in plate mail. I've seen no such examples in this game, but they exist elsewhere and so the concern is valid.

But where does it start and end? Omar starts a thread thanking the game developers for not going the chainmail bikini route with their female art. People who have had issue with him in the past come in and start making unnecessary comments toward him. He replies with unnecessary comments back. Im not here to protect Omar, hes a big boy he can do that himself. But the idea that anytime he says anything hes going to have people pop up and flame him is persecution. Either report him and let the moderators deal with it or ignore it.

jai151
05-31-2013, 09:11 AM
But where does it start and end? Omar starts a thread thanking the game developers for not going the chainmail bikini route with their female art. People who have had issue with him in the past come in and start making unnecessary comments toward him. He replies with unnecessary comments back. Im not here to protect Omar, hes a big boy he can do that himself. But the idea that anytime he says anything hes going to have people pop up and flame him is persecution. Either report him and let the moderators deal with it or ignore it.

The only problem with that is that the forums do not have a report feature. I was trying to find one when someone was attempting to troll me via private message last night.

But to the other part, look at the opening post Omar makes. Even in thanking them it is inflammatory, from the title to the last sentence. Whether he's automatically drawing flames or not, he's certainly done nothing but fan them.

Gwaer
05-31-2013, 09:13 AM
Omar, once I said you were my favorite fake person. I take it all back. You're just blatantly trolling now trying to stir up controversy.

HellFro
05-31-2013, 09:15 AM
But where does it start and end? Omar starts a thread thanking the game developers for not going the chainmail bikini route with their female art. People who have had issue with him in the past come in and start making unnecessary comments toward him. He replies with unnecessary comments back. Im not here to protect Omar, hes a big boy he can do that himself. But the idea that anytime he says anything hes going to have people pop up and flame him is persecution. Either report him and let the moderators deal with it or ignore it.

What? Truth!

As for the OPs point, it's pretty valid. I love overly sexualized females and wish I lived in a land of big titties and low inhibitions.
I also recognize women as human beings who actually have more to offer then their figures. Like a Sword Trainer who can Inspire +X atk and take a meaningful part in the salvation (or destruction) of the WORLD! Also known as the point of the game...

NaryaDL0re
05-31-2013, 09:16 AM
@tgm0112

Ok so even one more posts makes things a lot clearer.

How about the human keyword "inspire"?
I know I would be more inclined to pwn some sorry orc-asses if
A.) there are hot half naked chicks watching and B.) reminding me
of what we are fighting for at home.

Or do you suppose that in this grim sad universe stylized sexualization
doesnt exist as it does in our? Well we probably wont see a lot of
bordells and porn inside of Hex... but we agree that it exists right?
Why not see it as a way to express this phenomenon inside the world.

And ok, in the very end after all talks about creativity and morals:

The positive effect that aestheticaly pleasing erotic artworks have on me
far outweighs any bonus points for coherent lore or cultural references.
(not that I dont value those, but since its nigh impossible to create a
satisfying consistent culture backround and theres always stuff to sneeze at...
well its much easier to paint nice curves than make sure 10000 cards and
the dungeons and entirety of the game is representing a believable society).

It might be that my social and historical experience disables me of NOT
seeing all the coherency-flaws once I start looking for them.

So I need to blind out all these flaws anyways, so its not hard to do the same
for badly armored chicks while I m at it...

So unless someone takes the (stupid and not worth it) time to create a truely
satisfying universe, I dont mind blinding out some things, especially those that
have actual benefit to me on the side.


One a side note, In the WoW-Tcg there is quite a bit (not a "lot" though) of
transparancy when it comes to females. I hoped this would transfer over to hex
but so far I m rather displeased by the lack of fanservice. ;//

rwmwaffle
05-31-2013, 09:17 AM
The only problem with that is that the forums do not have a report feature. I was trying to find one when someone was attempting to troll me via private message last night.

Well that certainly is a problem that needs to be fixed then.

tgm0112
05-31-2013, 09:22 AM
@NaryaDL0re

Fair enough. I respectfully disagree on this matter but thank you for making an effort to get your point across. Sexuality for its own sake is not the sort of fanservice I prefer.

Again, if we were to visit a brothel in the campaign setting of Hex, I would think a lack of scantily-clad women to be a poor choice. All about context for me. Game of Thrones is a good example on how to do things right.

EDIT:


But where does it start and end? Omar starts a thread thanking the game developers for not going the chainmail bikini route with their female art. People who have had issue with him in the past come in and start making unnecessary comments toward him. He replies with unnecessary comments back. Im not here to protect Omar, hes a big boy he can do that himself. But the idea that anytime he says anything hes going to have people pop up and flame him is persecution. Either report him and let the moderators deal with it or ignore it.

I don't know why you quoted me for this. I haven't said anything prosecutorial to Omar and have attempted to remain civil. If my post seemed somehow otherwise, I apologize. I find personal attacks just a pointless.

NaryaDL0re
05-31-2013, 09:25 AM
On topic:

Any man who cant
1.) enjoy the shallow fack with the next best (good looking) whure he can grab... and also
2.) appreciate the love of his life with all the different aspects of her deep character

Well such a man mightve missed more than a point or two in his life.
Assuming every man that enjoys sexulized females is incapable of valuing their (possible)
inner strengths or has wrong priorities is about as mature as assuming the opposite would be.

EDIT : @ Tdm0112

Oh come on !!!

Of all the things you bring up Game of Thrones to make your point ;P.

That series (which I like for aryas and tyrions sake) is about as sad an excuse
for violance and nudity as it gets. It hides beneath good and believable reasons
to distract from the fact that the quanity and quality of the "fanservice" and violence
are waaaay of the mark.
(This opinion might be tainted in the slightest bit by the fact that my deluded
subconsciousness painfully misses artificial breasts, athletic build woman etc)

Ok this last argument might hint on the fact that sexuality for its own sake
couldnt have a better sake if you ask me ;O.

Because in the end, all things usually end up being for the sake of sexuality ;P
(slight hyperbole again)

Dralon
05-31-2013, 09:32 AM
The content of the initial post by Omar is an appropriate topic for discussion. Though a topic that has a high likelihood to degenerate as it has.

However the title of the thread and some of Omar's subsequent responses are undeniably inappropriate.

Ashenor
05-31-2013, 09:42 AM
Omar if you can please remove the Utopian Chaos banner from your signature. We have talked to you quite a bit about how we would like to be perceived in public, and you keep choosing to ignore it.

Best of luck in the future.

Thanks

Gwaer
05-31-2013, 09:44 AM
Well utopian chaos got better today.

OmarEpps
05-31-2013, 09:48 AM
If UC doesn't support Women's Rights or Strong Nubian Role Models, that's seriously disgusting.

katkillad
05-31-2013, 09:48 AM
I was just about to comment how I wouldn't have much respect for that guild, but if they are serious about not wanting someone like that in their guild then good for them!

Ashenor
05-31-2013, 09:50 AM
It has nothing to do with that Omar, like i told you in PM's i would prefer to keep this civil.

Respect us and remove the guild banner from your signature please.

OmarEpps
05-31-2013, 09:52 AM
I will make sure that EVERYONE knows that I was exiled because you do not support equal rights.

Ashenor
05-31-2013, 09:53 AM
Thank you Omar for removing it.

Talreth
05-31-2013, 09:53 AM
Well utopian chaos got better today.

QFT

These threads are pathetic.

Talreth
05-31-2013, 09:54 AM
I will make sure that EVERYONE knows that I was exiled because you do not support equal rights.

This discussion isn't even about equal rights, it's about a socio-cultural mindset towards women. And technically artists have the right to draw whatever they want until it gets classified as hate speech. 1/10 I replied.

LexC
05-31-2013, 09:54 AM
I will make sure that EVERYONE knows that I was exiled because you do not support equal rights.

Interesting to note how you are still trying to troll, you know full well this decision had nothing to do with your Thread but everything to do with how yo talk to people in your replies.

Talreth
05-31-2013, 09:56 AM
Interesting to note how you are still trying to troll, you know full well this decision had nothing to do with your Thread but everything to do with how yo talk to people in your replies.

Oh, I'm sure it had something to do with this thread at least as far as the title is concerned. He's going out of his way to make stupid controversial topics like Gwaer said in order to stir up shit on the forums.

DeusPhasmatis
05-31-2013, 09:57 AM
I will make sure that EVERYONE knows that I was exiled because you do not support equal rights.

There's a difference between equal rights and media censorship.

OmarEpps
05-31-2013, 10:03 AM
Oh, I'm sure it had something to do with this thread at least as far as the title is concerned. He's going out of his way to make stupid controversial topics like Gwaer said in order to stir up shit on the forums.

I've posted things I actively believe in:

1) Would like to see a strong black race/more human diversity in a TCG.

2) Thanked the Hex team for doing a great job so far in representing Strong Women.

If you think that's trolling you're a joke.

tgm0112
05-31-2013, 10:03 AM
Of all the things you bring up Game of Thrones to make your point ;P.


I don't have TV. I was referring to the books, which I know have spawned a series with mixed reviews in regards to fan service.

However, the written work does not shy away from violence or sex, as well it shouldn't. It's an important aspect of human interaction and I think it's dealt with very properly from a narrative standard. I don't want censorship, clearly, I just think some things can be done tastelessly.

Talreth
05-31-2013, 10:06 AM
I've posted things I actively believe in:

1) Would like to see a strong black race/more human diversity in a TCG.

2) Thanked the Hex team for doing a great job so far in representing Strong Women.

If you think that's trolling you're a joke.

There were a thousand better ways to title this thread and a million better ways to respond to people than how you did. The way you reply to people with your supreme self righteousness only serves to cause problems and actually makes you and therefore what you stand for look bad. If you really cared about these things you would take it more seriously.

katkillad
05-31-2013, 10:07 AM
I've posted things I actively believe in:

1) Would like to see a strong black race/more human diversity in a TCG.

2) Thanked the Hex team for doing a great job so far in representing Strong Women.

If you think that's trolling you're a joke.

If you aren't trolling then why did you name the thread the way you did? Either you don't know the full definition of misogyny or you are being a troll. I'm actually giving you the benefit of doubt and assume you are smart enough to know what misogyny entails, which leaves you looking like an attention starving troll.

That's the worst part about all of this. People should just ignore this person. I tried but his posts keep showing up.

Edit: Apparently I needed to confirm the ignore, ok that's that.

Talreth
05-31-2013, 10:09 AM
If you aren't trolling then why did you name the thread the way you did? Either you don't know the full definition of misogyny or you are being a troll. I'm actually giving you the benefit of doubt and assume you are smart enough to know what misogyny entails, which leaves you looking like an attention starving troll.

That's the worst part about all of this. People should just ignore this person. I tried but his posts keep showing up.

The best part is that his sig is contradictory with his position on women's rights. Who cares what they do with their body?

OP_Kyle
05-31-2013, 10:09 AM
Finger
On
Lock
Button
Please
Keep
Things
Civil

Skylmt
05-31-2013, 10:10 AM
Did he get kicked out of his guild?

Talreth
05-31-2013, 10:11 AM
Did he get kicked out of his guild?

Yes. Also, I think it's important to note that the only two people with threads potentially being locked are Yasi and now Omar.

HellFro
05-31-2013, 10:11 AM
I've posted things I actively believe in:

1) Would like to see a strong black race/more human diversity in a TCG.

2) Thanked the Hex team for doing a great job so far in representing Strong Women.

If you think that's trolling you're a joke.

I agree with what you're saying, but if you want to have a viewpoint then you have to submit to the fact that everyone else gets one too. And no one has said anything about A) having less diversity or B) having more bikini chain mail. Basically, you're good ideas with crap communication.

So yeah, you're a troll.

Sanik
05-31-2013, 10:41 AM
Locking this thread. While the topic posed is fine (albeit poorly titled) and worthy of discussion, this thread was derailed almost before it began.