PDA

View Full Version : Chest Spins



Slaeer
04-19-2014, 09:58 AM
Let's consolidate any info on the Chest Spins.

So far (and correct me if i'm wrong)
Common Chests costs 1200 GP to spin.
Uncommon Chests costs 1800 GP to spin.
Rare Chests costs 4500 GP to spin.
Legendary Chests costs 30000 GP to spin.

What i want to know is, what does the "paid spin" mean? I did a spin on a Rare chest and got "Upgrade to Legendary" and "Paid Spin".
1. Does this mean the spin I just did was paid for? (which it wasn't)
or
2. do I get a second free spin? If so, is it a free spin on the now Legendary Chest or a free spin on another Rare Chest?

by the way, neither of these happened. I got neither a paid for spin (lost the amount of GP that i was supposed to) nor another free spin (would not let me spin a Rare or Legendary because i was out of gold) which makes me wonder... what the hell is the "Paid Spin"??

Side note for those that do not know yet, you have to have gold to do the spins which currently you can get by winning tournaments. The gold amount at the top right does not update in real time but will update if you relog.

I hope they get some of these ironed out before Wednesday. I would hate to be opening all of my rewards without being able to get chests out of them.

1624

Yoss
04-19-2014, 11:13 AM
It would also be nice to track stats. EDIT: stats moved to post 11

syphonhail
04-19-2014, 11:17 AM
I am pretty sure paid spin really means "you can pay for another spin." Some results, including failure, will lock you out of being able to spin again.

Zomnivore
04-19-2014, 11:36 AM
Not particularly fond of weird concepts like "spins" or what not, but I understand that its to be some sort of gold sink to create value that can be put into a comparable state to money.

Xenavire
04-19-2014, 11:55 AM
I really like the idea, but I wonder how much gold will 'drop' in PvE? It seems like gold might be fairly valuable after all.

syphonhail
04-19-2014, 12:01 PM
Gold is eventually going to be the exclusive domain of PVE, we only have gold in PVP until they introduce PVE.

Zomnivore
04-19-2014, 12:25 PM
The chests are how you get money value out of gold. If people are willing to pay $$ for upgraded chests that creates a valuation for gold.

Axle
04-19-2014, 12:29 PM
I hope gold has enough value that people playing for free can use the auction house to build a collection of at least rares and commons and a few legendary cards

DanTheMeek
04-19-2014, 01:20 PM
My very first spin got my an Uruunaz, after about 10 spins I believe I had 2-3 Uruunas. My friend I got into the game spun with me and he kept getting resurrections, so w were both pulling legendaries like they were candy... but we were both getting the same one over and over (and different ones from each other) so not sure if we were just really lucky or things are bugged. Still if legendaries are that easy to get it will certainly change the value of them on the AH. I did mostly get fails, gold, or paid spins with my spins inbetween getting Uruunaz cards, and only got 1 chest upgrade.

GrinningBuddha
04-19-2014, 03:15 PM
I really have no idea what I'm doing on the WoF screen, when I drag a chest to the fountain, I get 3 buttons on the bottom of the screen but they're not labelled. The middle one seems to pay for a spin and the right one seems to take you back to the main WoF screen but there's no indication how much gold I'm spending on these chests. It's all very mysterious right now.

*edit*

In regards to legendary cards popping out left and right: If you look at the legend on the WoF screen, you'll see that many of the combinations that are currently awarding legendaries are actually supposed to be giving equipment. Since there isn't any in the game, we're getting legendaries instead. Only the horned helmet combo should be awarding a legendary.

Stars: weapon
Crowns: armor
Jazz Hands: chest upgrade
Moons: helmet
Mushrooms: alternate art(?)
Skulls: free card (rare?)
Hearts: double chest upgrade

Yoss
04-19-2014, 05:08 PM
this count includes my rolls from post 2:

chest rolls (common)
8 fail
3 upgrade
1 upgrade + pay spin
1 500g
1 2500g
1 free spin

BossHoss
04-19-2014, 11:31 PM
So... What do you think this is worth?

1630

My curiosity is peaked as to what could be inside a Primal Chest

saffamike
04-20-2014, 12:39 AM
So... What do you think this is worth?

1630

My curiosity is peaked as to what could be inside a Primal Chest

Both are still upside-down ^__^.

Showsni
04-20-2014, 08:08 AM
It's spelt "piqued".

Interesting... So, I guess Legendary chests can be upgraded when you spin them. Now, can you spin a Primal chest?

Xenavire
04-20-2014, 08:31 AM
It's spelt "piqued".

Interesting... So, I guess Legendary chests can be upgraded when you spin them. Now, can you spin a Primal chest?

I doubt it. If my guess is right, Primals will give a primal pack, or maybe an assortment similar to a primal pack (legendary equipments, rare cards, etc.)

BossHoss
04-20-2014, 09:19 AM
It's spelt "piqued".

Interesting... So, I guess Legendary chests can be upgraded when you spin them. Now, can you spin a Primal chest?

You got me there :p

The primal chest no longer allowed a spin although in the Stash the symbol on the chest still shows the ability to spin. (Minor visual bug not showing it is locked perhaps?)

I think Xen is correct in what the contents may be

YourOpponent
04-20-2014, 10:18 AM
Do we know if there's a link yet for the chances of getting a chest of a certain rarity from opening a pack? If so I have some stats for it. If not I guess I could make a separate thread for it.

ossuary
04-20-2014, 11:34 AM
I opened a primal pack yesterday and only got a legendary chest. Are they supposed to give a primal-level chest right off the bat? I don't remember if the update Cory made about the treasure chests said they would be legendary or primal.

Xenavire
04-20-2014, 11:46 AM
I opened a primal pack yesterday and only got a legendary chest. Are they supposed to give a primal-level chest right off the bat? I don't remember if the update Cory made about the treasure chests said they would be legendary or primal.

I think it is meant to be legendary, because the primal preview says a legendary chest (if memory serves.) Obviously, that could change, and it may have been intended to be primal and wasn't updated. Etc.

YourOpponent
04-20-2014, 05:22 PM
I opened a primal pack yesterday and only got a legendary chest. Are they supposed to give a primal-level chest right off the bat? I don't remember if the update Cory made about the treasure chests said they would be legendary or primal.

Yeah if I recall correctly primal packs when opened have a guaranteed chance of giving a legendary chest. They could have a chance of it being a primal chest I guess though. Either way it's very interesting that there are primal chests and that seemed pretty unexpected.

Yoss
04-20-2014, 11:05 PM
...a guaranteed chance...

Is that like a jumbo shrimp? :p

Chark
04-21-2014, 10:54 AM
Hi everyone,

We are glad that people are enjoying the Wheels of Fate and are already speculating on drop rates and values of primal chests. A couple things that may clear stuff up:

• There is a mismatch between what the info-graphic shows and the drops. This is compounded by the fact that some rewards were temporarily programmed in as "drop a random legendary instead". I promise that the final version will make more sense.
• Paid Spin is a chance to pay gold to spin again. Spinning the Wheels of Fate is the only way to upgrade chests, so another spin (even if it's paid) is valuable.
• Primal Packs drop legendary chests.
• The only way to get primal chests is to upgrade legendary chests via the WoF.
• You won't be able to open chests in closed beta, but you'll have them in your inventory for now (so that there is no value lost in closed beta from opening packs).
• The spin costs for each of the Chests may change as we try to balance things.
• Gold will be fairly scarce initially in closed beta and you may feel like you're not generating enough of it for all of the chests you're getting. This is primarily because by design gold faucets (things that introduce gold into the economy) were supposed to be primarily from PvE activities. As more of those come online (and possibly some additional PvP gold faucets), gold should flow at a better rate.

ossuary
04-21-2014, 11:44 AM
Awesome, thanks for all the clarifications, Chark. We appreciate it. :)

GrinningBuddha
04-21-2014, 12:03 PM
gold should flow at a better rate.

So it'll go from a trickle of gold to a shower of gold?

I'll show myself out...

Vorpal
04-21-2014, 12:05 PM
I really have no idea what I'm doing on the WoF screen, when I drag a chest to the fountain, I get 3 buttons on the bottom of the screen but they're not labelled. The middle one seems to pay for a spin and the right one seems to take you back to the main WoF screen but there's no indication how much gold I'm spending on these chests. It's all very mysterious right now.

That was my experience as well. I couldn't figure out how to make a chest spin, and the chest graphic seemed incomplete. Also all the results I got from opening all the packs I bought all said 'paid spin' but were sorted in my bar differently (in different groups).

It seemed like it wasn't supposed to be finished yet, which is fine. I guess it doesn't need to be ready until people have their KS rewards and might actually start trading things in.

hex_colin
04-21-2014, 12:10 PM
That was my experience as well. I couldn't figure out how to make a chest spin, and the chest graphic seemed incomplete. Also all the results I got from opening all the packs I bought all said 'paid spin' but were sorted in my bar differently (in different groups).

It seemed like it wasn't supposed to be finished yet, which is fine. I guess it doesn't need to be ready until people have their KS rewards and might actually start trading things in.

Definitely very unfinished. Seemed to be a focus of the work that was ongoing last Wednesday though (while I was distracting Chris and talking draft statistics and strategy).

knightofeffect
04-21-2014, 01:32 PM
this count includes my rolls from post 2:

chest rolls (common)
8 fail
3 upgrade
1 upgrade + pay spin
1 500g
1 2500g
1 free spin


So it'll go from a trickle of gold to a shower of gold?

I'll show myself out...

This is a high quality post that made my day.

I think we would be friends =)

fawus
04-22-2014, 12:34 PM
• You won't be able to open chests in closed beta, but you'll have them in your inventory for now (so that there is no value lost in closed beta from opening packs).

It's really painful feeling
http://puu.sh/8jeHR.png

FoundInTheFlood
04-24-2014, 12:53 AM
Is there a page that explains the BASICS of the chest thing? I don't get it at all. Package opening is easy to understand, but what ARE those chests and why are those upgrades and why are there different kinds of chests ..and what happens if you try again ... can you lose the first "chest" you got? Or do you get stuff out of chests, not chests themselves? I really don't get it :/

FoundInTheFlood
04-24-2014, 01:09 AM
Is there a page that explains the BASICS of the chest thing? I don't get it at all. Package opening is easy to understand, but what ARE those chests and why are those upgrades and why are there different kinds of chests ..and what happens if you try again ... can you lose the first "chest" you got? Or do you get stuff out of chests, not chests themselves? I really don't get it :/

Aaaah ok, they re-explained it in the latest post. Sry, I got it now.

jcalton
05-01-2014, 04:05 PM
Do we know if there's a link yet for the chances of getting a chest of a certain rarity from opening a pack? If so I have some stats for it. If not I guess I could make a separate thread for it.

http://forums.cryptozoic.com/showthread.php?t=35164
Working model: Com: 60% | Unc: 27.5% | Rar: 10% | Leg: 2.5%