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Hieronymous
04-28-2014, 10:00 PM
Noticed some odd card interactions with Lord Benjamin, Incantation of Ascendance, and Transcended. Didn't see either in a board search so posting as possible bugs.

1) Lord Benjamin's draw effect doesn't appear to add a counter to Incantation of Ascendance. It seems like it should -- you're drawing a card, after all.

2) Lord Benjamin's draw effect isn't impacted by Transcended. Again, this could be intentional since Benjamin isn't a simple draw effect (rather a "draw human"), but going by the language on Transcended, you should be able to use Benjamin's draw to draw anything in your deck. Not really sure which way this should wash out or whether it's a bug or intentional but thought it worth mentioning.

Gwaer
04-28-2014, 10:03 PM
"look at the top three cards in your deck, put a human from among them into your hand" is not actually a draw at all, so anything that modifies or reacts to draws specifically wouldn't trigger.

Hieronymous
04-28-2014, 10:07 PM
How isn't it a draw? A card is leaving your deck and moving into your hand. I mean, the "draw" keyword isn't there, sure, but you're still drawing a card. I can see how that could be considered as not a "draw" but it seemed like enough of an edge case that the behavior might not be intended after all.

Gwaer
04-28-2014, 10:21 PM
It's specifically looking at cards, picking one and putting it into your hand, that is not drawing. If it told you to put humans on top of your deck, and then draw a card, sure. But drawing is a very specific thing, not just starting with a card in your deck, and ending with it in your hand.

YuukiRus
04-29-2014, 01:22 AM
This is more accurate to call "deck searching" which is a common thing in most tcg's. This should not be called drawing as drawing does not work in the same way in my opinion.

Disordia
04-29-2014, 04:30 AM
You are tutoring for a human card, not drawing a card.

dwebber88
04-29-2014, 04:35 AM
It says PUT, not DRAW. therefor it is as intended.

ossuary
04-29-2014, 05:00 AM
Again, for it to count as drawing a card, it must use the word "draw." Placing a card in your hand is not drawing it. Drawing is a specific, mechanically unique, keyword. It means drawing the top card from your library into your hand when instructed to do so, not selecting a card from among X number of them and adding it to your hand from some alternate effect. A lot of people seem to be having confusion over this lately, for some reason.