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knightofeffect
04-11-2016, 09:28 PM
What are you going to do?

I'm going to support HXE cause that is all I've done and it doesn't benefit me in anyway to stop. Plus I really like and care about the people making this pretty awesome game.

I think we all know mistakes were made, I think they know mistakes were made. I'm not saying we aren't completely justified to rattle the pitchforks as much as we have, but in the end, we all gotta make a decision. Are we helping or hurting? Do we really want them to tell us all their mistakes? Will that make it any better?

I know for a fact they are reading all our comments, and I know it can't be fun. I just tried to imagine if I was in their developer position, got orders from on-high and knew this was coming whether I liked it or not; it was a pretty terrible daydream.

We are closer to the promise than we've ever been before, even if it still feels too far away at times, if we can just bare through it, take the best foot forward we can, maybe everything can turn out great in the end and this can just be a hiccup. The world felt like it was ending when the campaign slipped and then launched with lag too, but all in all, that turned out pretty good.

Maybe set 4 will launch flawlessly, maybe the positive community activity combined with a solid set 4 launch and steam launch will propel this game exactly where it needs to be.

All I know is I have likely gotten all the value out of my constructive criticisms if any, and if I really want this game to succeed, its time to start thinking about how I can help best. It can only benefit the game if the community is riding as high as it can

I'm not saying anyone else should do anything, I'm just giving you my reasoning. HXE is facing yet another major crunch time milestone for their product and doing so without a communications director, things are going to get a little messy. If we can trust them to take care of the back-end, we might have to do the heavy lifting on the front-end.

Maybe we are just emotionally venting a little before we put on our extra-internet Hex uniforms and do our damnedest. I know I've been through a couple cycles of that now.

I know the developers are tired of it, I'm tired of it, you're tired of it, everyone's tired of it, but I'm here for the long haul. <3

Zantetsuken
04-11-2016, 09:35 PM
I'm not even sure what you find noteworthy here. Any mistakes the HEX devs have made are dwarfed by the ones their card game overlord predecessors have made. Fantasy Flight gave us five years of Game of Thrones LCG, promised it to be a living card game with no set rotation, then murdered it only to release 2nd edition with set rotation and incompatible cards. Thousands of dollars wasted.

HEX nerfs a card that is effectively still in alpha and the shotguns come out....

facade
04-11-2016, 09:48 PM
Hehe... I'm beginning to understand a bit better what Cory meant in a recent interview when this would be a "lifestyle" game.

knightofeffect
04-11-2016, 09:48 PM
I'm not even sure what you find noteworthy here. Any mistakes the HEX devs have made are dwarfed by the ones their card game overlord predecessors have made. Fantasy Flight gave us five years of Game of Thrones LCG, promised it to be a living card game with no set rotation, then murdered it only to release 2nd edition with set rotation and incompatible cards. Thousands of dollars wasted.

HEX nerfs a card that is effectively still in alpha and the shotguns come out....

Just to preempt it, this doesn't need to be a topic about whether people are overreacting or not. The reaction is what it is, the expectations are what they are, dealing with those is part of game development. At this point creating a side argument over whether or not people are being reasonable only leaves everyone on the losing side in the end.

I know for a fact that this community general behaves itself quite well and there are numerous communities that would do a worse job. Sometimes we need to vent, sometimes HXE really needs to hear us.

In the end, if we want the game to be the best it can, we need to come together to help as best we can. :)

WolfCrypt
04-11-2016, 09:55 PM
I agree lets not constantly whine and talk about the cards...

wolzarg
04-11-2016, 11:00 PM
I agree lets not constantly whine and talk about the cards...
Well i mean its not a collectible dice game so its hard to avoid that topic.

Antfunk
04-11-2016, 11:12 PM
Nice post :). I much rather read this type :)!

Xexist
04-11-2016, 11:47 PM
Did I miss something?

WolfCrypt
04-11-2016, 11:51 PM
Well i mean its not a collectible dice game so its hard to avoid that topic.

I meant let stop complaining and jusst talk about PD spoils and currently out stuff

Khazrakh
04-12-2016, 12:17 AM
Not sure what made you post this but I'm quite confident that in the end we all agree on what you said.
I'll keep naming mistakes as I see them in these boards and IMO it's way better to have some (constructive) criticism than to be one huge hugbox where nobody ever dares to say anything negative.
That doesn't mean that I don't love the game though. I'll be negative at times here but I always did and always will white knight Hex anywhere else, actively promoting the game the best I possibly can for the same reason I criticise it here: It's the game I want to play for the rest of my live and I want it to be the best it can.

Eierdotter
04-12-2016, 12:34 AM
Not sure what made you post this but I'm quite confident that in the end we all agree on what you said.
I'll keep naming mistakes as I see them in these boards and IMO it's way better to have some (constructive) criticism than to be one huge hugbox where nobody ever dares to say anything negative.
That doesn't mean that I don't love the game though. I'll be negative at times here but I always did and always will white knight Hex anywhere else, actively promoting the game the best I possibly can for the same reason I criticise it here: It's the game I want to play for the rest of my live and I want it to be the best it can.

this

if something is not allright - people complain
if things are allright - most people do nothing and just play the game

thats unfortunate, but you have to keep it in mind, especially when you have a product and you cater to thousands of people.
if people complain about a hand full of things, it also means they are perfectly fine with almost everything else.
IMHO (constructive) criticism is always more helpful then mindless worship.

Cainhu
04-12-2016, 02:36 AM
The best I can do for the game is constructive criticism and NOT writing a Steam review when it will be available.

I really hope that with Set 4 and AZ2 things will improve, but for that the developers should increase their efforts, both on develpoment and on the bug-bashing side. Steam release is a good opportunity, and I hope they can use it for the game's benefit.

Ertzi
04-12-2016, 03:15 AM
I was in this for the long haul from the moment I read about this game in the KS campaign. In fact, I am in this for life. HEX is not just a game for me anymore, but a hobby. I play other games as games, but I always return to HEX. I don't even need to actually play the game to enjoy it anymore. I am equally happy at staring at my spreadsheets and coming up with deck ideas. This is also the only forum I have ever been an active member of. That includes everything, not just gaming. I will try to limit my posts, and especially criticism, for when I actually have something worthwhile to say, but I will still offer constructive criticism on topics I feel strongly about. Not because I want to hurt HEX, but because I love it so much and I need it to be the best it can be. All the while I will wheelbarrow money into HEX, because I don't mind spending money on my hobbies.

Timlagor
04-12-2016, 06:36 AM
if something is not allright - people complain
if things are allright - most people do nothing and just play the game

Fortunately Data Dragon knows when you are playing the game.

ossuary
04-12-2016, 06:52 AM
To be fair, a lot of the people who complain about things or fight to get things noticed / changed do so because of how much they love the game. They fight for what they want because they actually care what happens. That being said, there is definitely too much negativity with no constructive value going on as well, from certain people anyway.

People always have a right to their opinion and to state that opinion in the manner of their choosing, of course. But if you have nothing of value to add and are basically just bitching, you're only making things worse.

knightofeffect
04-12-2016, 07:13 AM
Thanks for all the great replays guys! I completely agree with everything said.

I certainly do my fair share of criticizing and complaining, only because I love the game and want it to succeed so bad. I think that is where pretty much everyone is coming from.

Sometimes, just for myself, I need to hit the reset button, remind myself and the people at HXE that were all in this together and regardless the circumstances, we will do our best to make the game a success when the chips are down... And this steam+set 4 launch window is probably the most "all-in" we've been to this point. :)

Yoss
04-12-2016, 07:20 AM
... the buffalo is empty.

Quantius
04-12-2016, 07:42 AM
Someone said there would be chips? What flavors and are there any dips? Or are the chips also coming out with the Steam/Set 4 launch?

bootlace
04-12-2016, 09:47 AM
When the chips are down....
What are you going to do?

Listen to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v4wMxDw87U).

Xexist
04-12-2016, 09:51 AM
I still dont understand what prompted this