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Thread: "Join as Party" in Draft Tournaments?

  1. #91
    Gigantisaur
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogmod View Post
    You are assuming a certain # of tables and that they won't let you table transfer. The reason you cannot queue as a group is so that there is a balance in the tables. They, at the casinos I attend at least, absolutely let you join the same tables as your friends assuming a balance between all tables.
    I'm speaking from the experience of playing poker in most of the Vegas strip casinos and a handful of others on the east coast. The poker room is always full, and you can join the queue individually, you can't say, "I'd like a table when me and these three friends can get one."
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  2. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by jai151 View Post
    I'm speaking from the experience of playing poker in most of the Vegas strip casinos and a handful of others on the east coast. The poker room is always full, and you can join the queue individually, you can't say, "I'd like a table when me and these three friends can get one."
    Zzzz I said that I like to play at the same table as my friends at the casino. I did not say I join a queue with them for the same table when a casino is full and tell the poker room boss to hold seats a table until my party size can fit on it. I was responding to your question about 1. Having more fun in a competitive environment and 2. why I like to do that with friends. I think I have demonstrated those points as evidenced by the fact that you are now arguing not about whether what I stated was fun but whether it is possible under a certain technical situation.

    It is fun to play with your friends in a competitive environmen

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    Not competitive. Ranked.

    Also, you used an example where you are expressly forbidden from joining as a group.
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  4. #94
    In a draft pod, collusion is not going to be cost effective. With $1 entry fees and packs being retail $2, I really can't see the total draft reward being very high. For larger tournaments, even if you joined as a group of 8 you might be in the same tournament but there's no way to guarantee which draft "table" you'll be at or who your first rounds will be against. And let's just say, for example, that you're allowed to do a whole 8 man into a tournament of 64 and you all sit at the first draft table together. Ok, so you game the 1st round and 4 go +1... well you pretty much can't game it any further than first round unless by chance you get put together again.

    Let's say out of the 28 other contestants, you and your buddies (somehow) end up playing against each other and throw your games. So now 2 move forward with +1 into a pool of 14 others. What are the odds you would get paired against your friend at this point? Let's say, against the odds, you get paired and throw the match. So now 1 of the 8 moves into the final 8. He still has to win all on his own now. An MTGO release/event 64 man draft would have a 24 pack reward for 1st place($96 retail value). So assuming your one buddy that makes it into the top 8 is amazing and can win, that's only $12 value per person in winnings(on a $6 entrance fee, assuming you already had the requisite packs. Otherwise, $30) and an investment time of 4 or more hours + a lot of luck. Are you seeing how difficult, low profit and incredibly absurd/improbable it is, even with a large group, to game the system in a real tournament?

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