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    Challenge: Name the most efficient series of cards for winning

    If you could control exactly what cards were drawn, in which order, to achieve victory fastest, what would they be? Assume you win coin flip. Assume nothing your opponent does slows you down.

    Not looking for a deck, looking for an answer like:

    Starting hand: 4x chronic madness, 3x sapphire (only use 1)
    T1: Play sapphire + chronic (enemy at 57 cards) *chron @ 3 cards
    [Enemy T1]: (enemy at 56 cards)
    T2: Draw chronic (from reshuffle), play sapphire, play Chronic (enemy at 50 cards) *chron @ 6 cards
    ET2: (enemy at 49 cards)
    T3: Draw chronic (from reshuffle), play sapphire, play Chronic (enemy at 41 cards) *chron @ 9 cards
    ET3: (enemy at 40 cards)
    T4: Draw chronic (from reshuffle), play Chronic (enemy at 28 cards) *chron @ 12 cards
    ET4: (enemy at 27 cards)
    T5: Draw chronic (from reshuffle), play Chronic (enemy at 12 cards) *chron @ 15 cards
    ET5: (enemy at 11 cards)
    T6: Draw chronic (from reshuffle), play Chronic (enemy at 0 cards) *chron @ 18 cards
    ET6: Lose game when cannot draw

    So, this series of cards wins the game in 6 full turns

    I'm sure better can be done. In fact after typing this out I realize twisted fate COULD be inserted there since you only need to have 1 chron madness in the starting hand, although that doesn't actually affect the outcome.

    Look forward to the interesting solutions to this

    Not looking for what is likely but what is actually fastest
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    Not the fastest but I like it. And definitely not most efficient (9 cards played- 5 Different Cards (counting resources))

    Starting Hand : Howling Brave, Wild Growth x2, Chlorophyll, Wild Resource x2, Jadiim
    Turn 1: Wild Resource + Howling Brave.
    Turn 2: Draw Wild Growth. Wild Resource + Chlorophyll.
    Turn 3: Draw Wild Growth. Jadiim.
    Turn 4: Draw Anything. Use Wild Growth x4 on Jadiim. Swing for 21 damage.

    Edit: To make it more probable to see in a real Game. (8 cards played - 5 different cards)

    Starting Hand: Howling Brave x2, Chlorophyll, Gigantify, Jadiim, Wild Resource x2.
    Turn 1: Wild Resource + Howling Brave.
    Turn 2: Draw Wild Resource. Wild Resource + Chlorophyll.
    Turn 3: Draw Anything. Wild Resource + Jadiim + Howling Brave.
    Turn 4: Draw Anything. Use Gigantify on Jadiim. Swing for 20.
    Last edited by Avaian; 12-25-2013 at 04:58 PM.

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    Ruby, Ruby, Lord Alexander, Crimson Clarity, Crimson Clarity, Crown of Primals, Royal Falconer

    Turn 1, Play Ruby
    Turn 2, Draw Ruby, Play Ruby, Play Lord Alexander
    Turn 3, Draw Ruby, Play Ruby, Play Crimson Clarity, Play Royal Falconer, Swing for 9.
    Turn 4, Play Ruby, Play Crimson Clarity, Play Crown of Primals, Activate One-shot on Falconer, Swing for 18.
    If you have Lionel, skip the Crown of Primals and use his Charge Power on turn 4 instead.
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    I've had plenty of turn 4 or 5 wins against the AI with multiple decks. There are lots of ways to accomplish quick wins with perfect hands against an opponent that does nothing. A turn 3 win would be pretty interesting, not sure if it's possible yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawlschool View Post
    I've had plenty of turn 4 or 5 wins against the AI with multiple decks. There are lots of ways to accomplish quick wins with perfect hands against an opponent that does nothing. A turn 3 win would be pretty interesting, not sure if it's possible yet.
    I have a solution for turn 3 kill. But you have to be very lucky.
    Turn 1 Play Wild Shard, Play Howling Brave
    Turn 2 Play Sapphire Shard, Play Verdant Wyleboar, Attack with Verdant Wyleboar, Activate Howling Brave, Play Replicator's Gambit with the target Verdant Wyleboar
    Turn 3 Draw Verdant Wyleboar (that has the power from Replicator's Gambit), Play Verdant Wyleboar, Attack with 7 Verdant Wyleboar,

    You dealt 28 damage turn 3 and won the game.

    Edit:
    And I have even the unofficial turn 2 kill with a card that is not release now.

    Turn 1
    Play Wild Shard
    Play Howling Brave

    Turn 2
    Play Rubin Shard
    Activate Howling Brave 3 Resource, 5 Hand
    Play Crimson Clarity 4 Resource, 4 Hand
    Play Crimson Clarity 5 Resource, 3 Hand
    Play Crimson Clarity 6 Resource, 2 Hand
    Play Howling Brave 5 Resource, 1 Hand
    Play Eye of Creation for 3 + 2
    Reveal Eye of Creation and Rampaging Tarasque
    Put Rampaging Tarasque into the play and Eye of Creation will play himself as copy of your last eye
    Reveal two Rampaging Tarasque
    Put the two Rampaging Tarasque into the play
    Attack with all three Rampaging Tarasque

    You dealt 24 damage and won the game turn 2.
    Last edited by Sereaphim; 12-26-2013 at 05:29 AM.

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    You need to pay 8 for eye of creation to be able to play Tarrasque from it =) the cost of played cards is based on X, not on the total mana spent

    I remember doing some turn4 wins with the combination of gas trolls/howling braves/cheap ruby cards, but i can't remember the exact playorder
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeScorp View Post
    You need to pay 8 for eye of creation to be able to play Tarrasque from it =) the cost of played cards is based on X, not on the total mana spent

    I remember doing some turn4 wins with the combination of gas trolls/howling braves/cheap ruby cards, but i can't remember the exact playorder
    The card has different card text now if you hover your mouse cursor over it.

    Eye of Creation 3 WWW
    Basic Action

    As additional cost to play this action, pay [X]

    Reveal the top x cards of your deck.
    You may put any revealed troop into the play.
    If you reveal a other Eye of Creation this way, transform into a copy of this action and play it.
    Shuffle the remaining cards into your deck.

    But I have no idea if this card get released this way.

    My turn 3 kill is possible with the cards now.
    So it is the quickest option at the moment.
    Last edited by Sereaphim; 12-26-2013 at 06:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sereaphim View Post
    The card has different card text now if you hover mouse cursor over it.
    As additional cost to play this action, pay [X]

    Reveal the top x cards of your deck.
    You may put any revealed troop into the play.
    If you reveal a other Eye of Creation this way, transform into a copy of this action and play it.
    Shuffle the remaining cards into your deck.
    Didnt know that... i don't like it
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    A turn 3 that requires a very specific set of cards:
    Hand: 2 X schriveners, 1 righteous paladin, 2 diamond shards, 1 wild shard, 1 runts of the litter.

    turn 1: play diamond, play Adamantian scrivener.
    turn 2: draw runts of the litter, play diamond, play righteous paladin - transforms to 3/3 from lifegain, attack with scrivener - enemy at 19/19.
    turn 3: draw whatever, play wild, play adamantian scrivener, play runts of the litter, play runts of the litter, use hero ability to make a battle hopper.
    paladin is a 3/3 + 2 * (1 + 3 + 3 + 1) = 19/19. attack with paladin + schrivener.
    Enemy dead at -1.

    servers are down, so can't check if I had any mistakes at mana cost/threshold values, will check once its up
    Last edited by BlackRoger; 12-27-2013 at 02:46 AM.

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    Rigid Buffalo
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    I think, runts are creating 2 hoppers now, not 3
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