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    Ah I just heard a lot of people saying that Hex was starting to stop talking to community... Shutting up XD
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    There are definitely some sentiments that I share with you guys. I feel sad that many awesome posts we spent countless hours on will be gone forever. Meticulously maintained lists and helpful links that enlightened so many will vanish. Forums tags and titles that gave identity or recognition to some were a nice touch and will be missed.

    It's OK to take a moment to mourn and reminisce.

    But it doesn't mean we should act like spoiled children and transform our bitterness into the boycott of the next chapter of the forums. Do any of you veterans think that HXE did not carefully consider this decision? Do you think they have forgotten you are the pillars that have supported and led this awesome community since its inception?

    You're right that all of it was not communicated very well once again. This has always been HXE's problem and is more understandable these days where we have no Community Manager. Chark and Shaqattaq are doing their best to fill in but it isn't their job. Let's cut them some slack.

    Hex is going into a new era on Tuesday. A massive population of new players will hopefully flow from the Steam launch. It's clear how critical the success of this move is to the longevity of this game - as shown by its prioritization over the Set 4 release (which I'm sure Cory wanted to see released earlier more than any of us). It seems the forums will be migrating a day or two prior to this monumental milestone.

    What kind of discussion platform will await these new players? What is the tone that will be set from the get go? What shape will the new forums take? What standard will be established that will carry over to the rest of the forum's life?

    HXE can't answer these questions - in fact, they have next to no control over any of it. It's up to us to keep showing our faith for the company, the developers, and the future of this game we love. It's up to us to guide the next generation of Hexers. HXE has listened to our feedback before and they have appreciated us for making this the best community in gaming. Let's not turn our back on them now when they need us the most. No one likes change but I do believe this change will be for the better in the long run. HXE has always done right by its community and I still have faith.

    For what it's worth, I will be there on the launch of the new forum. Let the new chapter begin!

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by chromus View Post
    There are definitely some sentiments that I share with you guys. I feel sad that many awesome posts we spent countless hours on will be gone forever. Meticulously maintained lists and helpful links that enlightened so many will vanish.
    If i understood correctly, all the contents will me kept and tranfered into the new forum

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Gregangel View Post
    If i understood correctly, all the contents will me kept and tranfered into the new forum
    Wow, you're right. With all the outcry in this thread, I somehow assumed it will all be gone. Then, the situation is even less grim than some would make it out to be.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by chromus View Post
    Wow, you're right. With all the outcry in this thread, I somehow assumed it will all be gone. Then, the situation is even less grim than some would make it out to be.
    Agreed. But, they should pay special attention to ensure posts like KG's new player guide and NicoSharp's list of PVE deck strength are kept in the new forums.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by chromus View Post
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    Chromus, I think some of what you say is true, but some is squarely off, especially the spoiled children bit and the boycotting. Many of the people talking about moving on are staple members of the community that are neither being whiny nor are they 'boycotting' the new forums out of anger. In fact, most of the people who said they were moving on, myself included, said that they were still going to play the game and put some of their same gusto into supporting the Steam community. IMO, that is where the focus of veteran players and community members will be needed most for this transition.

    As my OP stated, I think new forums are needed and with any new forum there must be some changes that churn things up a bit, and I think we'll see that in the removal of post counts (and how they archive, as I believe the content of old forum posts will be mothballed quicker than you can blink). All of that is part of the process, and for those that are salty about those superficial changes only, they'll get over it as the allure of the forums has always been the people involved in it, not the software.

    CMs included, CMs aside, the tone of HexEnt has changed radically over the years in how it engages the community. Do I like it? No. Do I think they could have done it better? Yes. Does my opinion matter in this regard? Definitely not. I'm not upset about that at all either, I have zero insight to their company, and they are obviously at a time where a lot of decisions need to be made and mining the community is not the way one does that.

    I will not list the tonal changes I think that have happened in regards to engaging the community as I don't think it would be helpful nor would it underline the point I'm trying to make which is Hex is growing, the company is changing, and the community is going to change as a result of that. When a community changes, you don't really get people within that community changing, you get some, generally veteran, people moving out, and some, generally new, people moving in. That's the process. If HexEnt really wants to keep a hold of the old guard here and their initial way of engaging them, the new forums will showcase that, and you will see everyone there, albeit some of us under different guises.

    If the forums are well designed they will attract people and they will be successful. They don't need a veteran forum poster's pledge to be active. Most people who said they were moving on made clear they are going to continue to play and support the game, it'll just be different and/or we'll probably be using a different community platform to engage. If I'm wrong on that, errr, I don't know if that is a good thing or not, as I don't know if having the new forums being the same as the old forums (and therefore community) is good for this game or not.

    You won't see me around as I can't keep my name. Maybe I'll pheonix up and come back as my IGN or something else. Who knows. But I'll continue to vote with my dollars for the game in practice, though my ballot numbers are down as of late given some financial hardship.

    TLDR; for those saying they are moving on to a different Hex community or disengaging the communities in general, it isn't necessarily out of spite nor does it mean they aren't supporting the game. This sort of migration is both natural and healthy. No need to mark those people as whiners or bitter, better to mark them as founders of the original community who helped form the game during early days of development and paved a way for a new generation to come on in. The forums are dead. Long live the forums!

  7. #67
    i bookmarked this link for the forums forums.cryptozoic.com/search.php?do=getnew&contenttype=vBForum_Post
    which would immediately show new content upon visiting, very convenient. But it also showed all the side stuff, for example topics about that Ghostbusters boardgame. I wonder if I can still do the same on the new forums for only HEX topics.

  8. #68
    You make some good points. I'm gonna touch upon a few points I disagree with.

    Quote Originally Posted by fido_one View Post
    Chromus, I think some of what you say is true, but some is squarely off, especially the spoiled children bit and the boycotting. Many of the people talking about moving on are staple members of the community that are neither being whiny nor are they 'boycotting' the new forums out of anger. In fact, most of the people who said they were moving on, myself included, said that they were still going to play the game and put some of their same gusto into supporting the Steam community. IMO, that is where the focus of veteran players and community members will be needed most for this transition.
    Actually, most said they will be active on the Steam forums instead of being active on the official forums. If you truly care about the future community of this game, you can be active in both. You don't have to give up one for the other. The official forums will also always be the best place to interact with all the new players and give feedback to the developers.

    CMs included, CMs aside, the tone of HexEnt has changed radically over the years in how it engages the community. Do I like it? No. Do I think they could have done it better? Yes. Does my opinion matter in this regard? Definitely not. I'm not upset about that at all either, I have zero insight to their company, and they are obviously at a time where a lot of decisions need to be made and mining the community is not the way one does that.
    I don't agree that their tone has radically changed. I do agree that with CM or without CM, they have always had communication problems. It has improved over time but not nearly to the level we've come to expect. What I do hope, however, is that they will find a new CM who will bring a totally new perspective and turn things around. I've personally had the chance to meet many of the people behind this game during the Invitational. While there are so many amazingly talented people that are working very hard, let me tell you (having had a career in marketing and sales myself): none of them are marketing or communication specialists. One person - the right person - can make a huge difference.

    If the forums are well designed they will attract people and they will be successful. They don't need a veteran forum poster's pledge to be active. Most people who said they were moving on made clear they are going to continue to play and support the game, it'll just be different and/or we'll probably be using a different community platform to engage. If I'm wrong on that, errr, I don't know if that is a good thing or not, as I don't know if having the new forums being the same as the old forums (and therefore community) is good for this game or not.
    It's not about the veteran forum poster's pledge. It's about that veteran member of the community contributing to helping the newer members of the community while continuing to provide their much-needed feedback. These are the people with the most experience with the game. Their active participation in relevant conversations (not just playing the game) is a huge plus to the game itself, so losing the insight that these people bring is absolutely a loss for this game.

    You won't see me around as I can't keep my name. Maybe I'll pheonix up and come back as my IGN or something else. Who knows. But I'll continue to vote with my dollars for the game in practice, though my ballot numbers are down as of late given some financial hardship.
    And that's fine. Forum handles are are just forum handles. The important part is not losing you and others like you. Support through your wallet is excellent support of the game. Active participation in forums is another kind - one that we should not give up on just because we lose our forum names, post-count or titles.

    TLDR; for those saying they are moving on to a different Hex community or disengaging the communities in general, it isn't necessarily out of spite nor does it mean they aren't supporting the game. This sort of migration is both natural and healthy. No need to mark those people as whiners or bitter, better to mark them as founders of the original community who helped form the game during early days of development and paved a way for a new generation to come on in. The forums are dead. Long live the forums!
    They seemed bitter to me and they have reason to be. But I do trust they are mature enough to move past it and continue supporting the game in the ways they have always done. If not, they will be missed. Long live the forums indeed!

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by chromus View Post
    You make some good points. I'm gonna touch upon a few points I disagree with.



    Actually, most said they will be active on the Steam forums instead of being active on the official forums. If you truly care about the future community of this game, you can be active in both. You don't have to give up one for the other. The official forums will also always be the best place to interact with all the new players and give feedback to the developers.


    I don't agree that their tone has radically changed. I do agree that with CM or without CM, they have always had communication problems. It has improved over time but not nearly to the level we've come to expect. What I do hope, however, is that they will find a new CM who will bring a totally new perspective and turn things around. I've personally had the chance to meet many of the people behind this game during the Invitational. While there are so many amazingly talented people that are working very hard, let me tell you (having had a career in marketing and sales myself): none of them are marketing or communication specialists. One person - the right person - can make a huge difference.



    It's not about the veteran forum poster's pledge. It's about that veteran member of the community contributing to helping the newer members of the community while continuing to provide their much-needed feedback. These are the people with the most experience with the game. Their active participation in relevant conversations (not just playing the game) is a huge plus to the game itself, so losing the insight that these people bring is absolutely a loss for this game.



    And that's fine. Forum handles are are just forum handles. The important part is not losing you and others like you. Support through your wallet is excellent support of the game. Active participation in forums is another kind - one that we should not give up on just because we lose our forum names, post-count or titles.



    They seemed bitter to me and they have reason to be. But I do trust they are mature enough to move past it and continue supporting the game in the ways they have always done. If not, they will be missed. Long live the forums indeed!
    Well put. I disagree with some of your counterpoints but as always appreciate your insight. I should clarify that there is going to be some saltiness/bitterness in the transition, easy to fall into that trap, but from the people I'm thinking about, I know it is a temporary thing.

    I'm sure we'll run into each other either in this incarnation or the next!

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