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Kami
05-24-2014, 06:47 PM
So I just came off a frustrating day of being eliminated in first round in drafts multiple times in a row and am wondering how everyone else deals with losing streaks - especially when you know the reasons are completely out of your control.

Everything that could go wrong, went wrong (from misplays, having an advantage and watching it evaporate over a significant amount of turns due to poor draws with decent decks and very lucky opponents, and resource screws such as drought and flood, and more) and I just feel like venting at the moment.

For me, I plan to just go lie in bed and watch some videos and/or do some reading to calm down and probably chat with some friends, heh.

How do you guys deal with just awful luck?

hex_colin
05-24-2014, 06:53 PM
You just have to chart your results and console yourself with a (hopefully) positive outcome over time. Even the best draft deck is going to lose a good percentage of the time. The very best drafters in other TCG games have maybe a 60-65% win percentage.

Also, for now - 5000G!!! More WOF spins!!! :)

nicosharp
05-24-2014, 06:54 PM
Kami, you were my toughest opponent in the draft. Sometimes you just get a tough break and go against someone that is setup to win. I've had a bad streak today as well before that last tourney.

I think the trick is to pick outside of your comfort zone, and try new things. Nothing was wrong with your deck at all.

HeXBazou
05-24-2014, 07:04 PM
when i loose in first round, it's because i draft very bad or i under-rate shard fixer, or test ^^. but i loose only 5/6 draft first round on mb 30, however rule n1 never say luck / unluck :).

Diesbudt
05-24-2014, 07:13 PM
Step 1) Eat a 14oz Steak with potatoes
Step 2) Relax with alcohol (if 21+) or boxed juice (if younger)
Step 3) Return to hex and try again

Marsden
05-24-2014, 07:25 PM
How do you guys deal with just awful luck?

- Be happy I just picked up some cards and 5000 Gold
- Kick the AI until I roundly defeat it with some insane combo.
- Hang out in chat
- Kick the AI some more
- Go read some comics
- Get some sleep

Something like that

HyenaNipples
05-24-2014, 07:35 PM
Jump in queue for the next draft and get more cards.

Also, if you go into draft with too heavy a focus on victory, you are setting yourself up for rage. I view drafting as collection building event. I rare draft good rares, always, and I usually walk out with more than 3 packs worth of rares (i.e. 4). So if I win, awesome! More packs! But if I put together some serious rubbish and get trounced round 1, I just take a look at my sweet rares and queue up for another.

Dang my deck sucked! Oh, but I got a Legionnaire of Gawaine, two Incantations, and a flying squid thing, all of which will be awesome when I start playing constructed. After all, once you have all the cards in Set 1, I don't see much point in playing Limited until Set 2. Might as well migrate to constructed at that point because you don't need any more cards.

BossHoss
05-24-2014, 07:36 PM
I'd start locking threads created by the people that beat me ;p

hex_colin
05-24-2014, 07:38 PM
After all, once you have all the cards in Set 1, I don't see much point in playing Limited until Set 2. Might as well migrate to constructed at that point because you don't need any more cards.

I'm doing it wrong then! ;)

I just like the process. And forcing myself to try all of the archetypes. History tells me that great constructed decks come from being forced to use cards in new and unexpected ways in limited. Sometimes you find an interaction that you'd never thought of and away you go... :)

HyenaNipples
05-24-2014, 07:45 PM
I'm doing it wrong then! ;)

I couldn't handle being a Producer! I love the collecting process, knowing that each draft selection is a card I'll now own forever. It's thrilling to pick up new ones.

But to each their own! If I were in your shoes, Colin, I would ask if I could trade in my 4x of every copy of every card for unlimited draft tickets (assuming you dont already have that!). Owning all the cards would kill me! It's like loading in your new video game and all the achievements unlock automatically.

Voormas
05-24-2014, 07:51 PM
Yea, keeping track of actual Win/Loss records helps you take the long-view but if I chump out twice in a row on the first match I just go do something else for a while like watch a movie or something - try to move around a bit too, you've probably been sitting down for a couple of hours by that point!

Xenavire
05-24-2014, 07:55 PM
I just focus on the few kickass, 'feels like a one in a million' draft moments. Then I think 'this one loss is so insignificant compared to that epic win'.

sukebe
05-24-2014, 07:59 PM
I do one of two things depending on my mood:

1: Tell myself that luck is involved and that if I were lucky all the time I would be getting rich in casinos (I live in las vegas :) ). Then, get into the next draft and try again.

2: Take a break from hex as soon as I realize it is upsetting me. once I stop focusing on my streak of bad luck I start feeling better.

hex_colin
05-24-2014, 08:00 PM
I couldn't handle being a Producer! I love the collecting process, knowing that each draft selection is a card I'll now own forever. It's thrilling to pick up new ones.

I still love getting cards! Especially Angels and Vampires! (I rare drafted an Angel the other day ;)) :) If you know anything about me by now, you'll know that I'll probably find an outlet for the extra cards that benefits others...

Also, that's why I love limited - it's a level playing field. I start off the same way as everyone else - makes the wins pretty sweet. :)

For me the Producer thing was always about helping out the game (and I'd do it again today!) and not having to grind something I wanted when PVE is available.

Ju66ernaut
05-24-2014, 08:30 PM
I had a horrible record today. 3 or 4 first round losses, 1 second round loss, and 2 losses in the finals. It's been VERY hit and miss for me. X-/

But still, I cannot...stop...drafting!

BETTER, HARDER, FASTER, DRAFTER!!

YourOpponent
05-24-2014, 08:40 PM
I take it out o Kismet until she give me something good and then make a new BA deck with the cards from Draft until I feel mischief is managed.

zz_tophat
05-24-2014, 08:53 PM
I take beta blockers so I don't actually go "on tilt" as far as I can tell, I used to deal with it by doing something else for a while but now it's a non-issue.

This video is about another game but it's applicable here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxE8wTbYJs8

ossuary
05-24-2014, 09:03 PM
Personally, I deal with losing streaks by expecting them upfront. Not because I'm bad at drafting (I'm not), but because of my legendarily bad luck. For me, everything that could go wrong actually going wrong is just called "Tuesday." ;)

I have absolutely zero expectations of making a profit drafting. I will never go infinite. So whenever I do manage, against Kismet's capricious whims, to eke out a win, I celebrate the unexpected windfall. :)

Let's just say that I won't be dumping a lot of money into tournament play once PVE is in. I play now because I love the game and I want to support CZE, not because I have a shot at getting anything for it. ;)

YourOpponent
05-24-2014, 10:47 PM
I take beta blockers so I don't actually go "on tilt" as far as I can tell, I used to deal with it by doing something else for a while but now it's a non-issue.

This video is about another game but it's applicable here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxE8wTbYJs8

Mundo thanks you for your link!

Kroan
05-24-2014, 11:12 PM
I deal with them by winning :P

Gwaer
05-24-2014, 11:28 PM
^ Kroan apparently goes through the phases of grief, and has just started a new losing streak. =(

funktion
05-25-2014, 12:27 AM
I definitely hit a rough patch the other day. I was on a pretty solid win streak / finals streak and then lost round 1... I kinda tilted myself by firing up another draft right away and since I was still bummed about the first loss I drafted horribly...

Sometimes you just gotta step away and go read a comic or something. Keeping track of my wins / losses has helped though in keeping me realistic about how I'm doing.

What I will say sucks (and is pretty unavoidable) is when clearly the best two draft decks face off against one another in round 1. Happened the other day to me and I barely scraped by with the win, but after making it 3-0 I definitely was bummed that I hadn't instead faced my round 1 opponent in the finals.

Barkam
05-25-2014, 01:53 AM
I just maintain to be on tilt until I run out of plats. You didn't ask "how to deal with it well." I had the worst loss streak Friday night. 4 out of 5 round 1 losses.

And you'll see me type something like this:

";ajkfd;salkjf;salkdjf;sakldjfa;skldfha;sldgjas;lf"

Good day.

Kroan
05-25-2014, 03:46 AM
^ Kroan apparently goes through the phases of grief, and has just started a new losing streak. =(

Actually I broke a streak yesterday by going 3-0 :P It was a joke, not a terrible good one I'm afraid tho! :D

Malakili
05-25-2014, 04:30 AM
Just go do something else.

Lagoondragon
05-25-2014, 10:45 AM
The simplest answer of all, come to this thread and get morale boosted :D

NoahBuddy
05-25-2014, 12:44 PM
i have been on a losing streak lately as well. i know it sounds cliche but i try to focus on positives. like in my last draft i lost in round one again. i won the first game and timed out on the second so we were both eliminated but they were REALLY good games ( gg kameda). i drafted probably my best deck yet. picked uruunaz, endbringer, living totem, and time bug(needed for my set). also i like to think of things that might mean i'm getting better. if i can look to a certain play or the deck i made , or the picks i made that i may not have done before but were positive than i'm happy win or lose. good luck all.

nicosharp
05-25-2014, 12:58 PM
Honestly, it really does come down to "not playing to win", or not letting draft be goal driven. I do my best when I just pick cards I think will be fun together and try to build the best deck possible for the curve I want for my bomb cards. I base my happiness off of mini-games of trying to out think my opponent, and determining whether or not I should hold or play cards. I also base my happiness off pulling cool cards, getting handed bonus rares, and learning new combos. Even when I get butchered, I try to take something positive out of the experience.

I think that LOL based video is pretty good, because that game really taught me, since I played it a lot season 1 and 2, that you need to learn things in every game and analyze ways to find new solutions to issues you experience. If you can get off on learning, or discovery, and have fun even in the most stompy of situations against you, you will never go on tilt.

The other thing to realize is that everyone playing the game thinks that they can win it. Everyone has a certain standard for themselves. Some of those standards and ideals are baseless, and some have merit depending on the player. That mentality can often lead to disappointment if based on small measurements, and not appropriately valuing or analyzing the competition.

Another league of legends example was that players who had 55% win ratios or higher for a long time were considered the top 2% of the players in the game. That should really help put things into perspective.

Khazrakh
05-25-2014, 01:02 PM
Well I played 4 drafts from Thursday to Saturday morning and won every single one of them - in 2 out of 4 I didn't even lose a single game in all the matches I played. Then I had a friend join in on Saturday afternoon and I got eliminated first round in 3 drafts in a row. Once because I got bad draws and resource screw, once because my opponent happened to play a perfect counter to my deck and once because my opponent actually had 2(!) Eldritch Dreamers that I just couldn't handle in 2 out of 3 games. Sometimes you just get really unlucky. I did play a fourth draft and made it into the finals there (losing 1-2) so I was somewhat sated but I guess if I would have lost my 4th draft in a row first round I might have just taken a day off or something.

Athravan
05-25-2014, 02:02 PM
League of legends taught me how to lose gracefully and how not to let myself get upset about it. I go into every draft with the full knowledge that I've got a decent chance of getting knocked out in the first round and I wouldn't enter it if I felt I'd get upset if that happened. Then if I do get through, it's a bonus, rather than what I expected. The second it stopped being fun, I would log out and do something else for a while. Once PvE is in, I'd probably just go and beat up some AI for a bit instead or chat to guildies, but those options will be for the future.

CaravelBoomer
05-25-2014, 02:49 PM
The worst part is that unless you have a 70% winrate (i.e. you're probably in the top 5% of players in the world, maybe less) your most likely result out of all the possibilities is 0-1 :)

Basically it's a TCG, there WILL be variance. There WILL be Shard Screw. There WILL be topdecks from hell.

If you can't handle that, the game's probably not for you.....and it's 15 years later and I still can't handle it :D

Pheelon
05-27-2014, 02:13 AM
hmm, how to deal with it - by swapping between wining and losing ones from time to time - if you come from 6 draft wins in a row losing 2-3 in a row doesn't "hurt" as much ;)

nah honestly you just go on - especially if it was out of your control - like for me yesterday (well mostly) - fell asleep when 1 draft started (note to self need to sleep more) and had a PC crash (during Game 1 in R1 - too late for reconnect) - both were decent Decks that should have gone 1-1 or 2-1 at least but well I manage - I'm still up like 50 packs overall in drafts ;)

Skirovik
05-27-2014, 03:39 AM
Thankfully, I'm still just using my free drafts and therefore have no pressure to win. I'm also quite new to TCGs so when I won the first round in a draft the other day I was quite happy about it.

When I have improved and I start to put some money into drafts I may feel that my losing streak is affecting me, in which case hopefully just taking a break will be enough. Likely, I won't be drafting enough for a losing streak to be that strenuous since I'll probably be drafting at a maximum of like 2-3 times per week. (Hard to go "on tilt" when the time-frame is so large.)

AdamAoE2
05-27-2014, 06:54 AM
I'm in the same boat. I have lost in the first or second round my last 5 or 6 drafts. It sucks, but you gotta look at the big picture. I just finished spending my first 5000 platinum on drafts, and after I looked at my inventory I realized that I am still at 88 packs, when I started at 85 packs from my kickstarter. I take that as a success! :) The other thing to keep in mind I think too, is that players are getting better at drafting. People are starting to realize the pick orders and they recognize the good cards.

Unhurtable
05-27-2014, 07:05 AM
Its easy I never enter a lose streak in the first place :D

Dynimix
05-27-2014, 08:23 AM
So, being new, I have lost almost all of my games....

I guess for me I just keep telling myself that I am learning and that at least the matches are becoming competitive...

Mahes
05-27-2014, 08:33 AM
So I just came off a frustrating day of being eliminated in first round in drafts multiple times in a row and am wondering how everyone else deals with losing streaks - especially when you know the reasons are completely out of your control.

Everything that could go wrong, went wrong (from misplays, having an advantage and watching it evaporate over a significant amount of turns due to poor draws with decent decks and very lucky opponents, and resource screws such as drought and flood, and more) and I just feel like venting at the moment.

For me, I plan to just go lie in bed and watch some videos and/or do some reading to calm down and probably chat with some friends, heh.

How do you guys deal with just awful luck?

Well, you do have internet access. I am sure there are ways that you could relieve stress using the internet.

maniza
05-27-2014, 09:36 AM
awful luck balances itself out. always remember that. loosing in the first round with a great deck happens but wining with a realy crappy one will also happen. so if luck was all there is to it, it will come around. then there are mistakes you can make while you play. particularly if you do so for long periods of time.

if i have a realy bad draft i just stop playing right there. take the rest of the day off and come back tomorrow. i also like to think of games i lost and how i could have done things diferent. starting from the mulligan to the play style and the key turns.

i also think many players give up to early and start playing badly if they are far behind or ahead. in general i follow a rule that if i am far behind and have enough time i try to do risky high high reward plays.(i have pulled off some amazing combacks). if im ahead i play thinking my oponent has the perfect answer in his hand and try to play around it if posible.

i have come to the conclusion that the amount of games you lose to just dumb luck is realy realy small.

Freebird_Falcon
05-27-2014, 01:22 PM
I rare draft good rares, always, and I usually walk out with more than 3 packs worth of rares (i.e. 4). So if I win, awesome! More packs! But if I put together some serious rubbish and get trounced round 1, I just take a look at my sweet rares

This is where I tend to lean. It feels like much less of a blow if I lose in round 1 but at least got my 3x rares. When I skip rares and round 1 out it is incredibly demoralizing. I passed 3 doppelgadgets(there were 4 and I opened 2 of them lol) for 3 noble citizenry in a strong s/d flier deck and round 1 out to a w/r opponent with no-block gem berserker, veteran gladiator and perfect removal draws (where I drew none of mine). I did this late night, trying to squeeze in one before bed and it wasn't a good way to end the night.

I also tend to not queue up unless I am mentally prepared to accept a round 1 loss without it pissing me off.
Then there are times, of course, where I just have to take a break for a few days.

Idus
05-27-2014, 01:24 PM
I've been on a losing streak since Beta came out....

At the moment, the gold helps as a consolation prize, otherwise I go play proving grounds where fate is a little more in my control, or go read the forums looking for more news about PvE :)

Werlix
05-27-2014, 01:35 PM
however rule n1 never say luck / unluck :).

Not this. Sometimes you get a bad run of luck and it happens. No point denying it.

But it also helps to take a short break and then think over your games/deck and what you could have done better. There's usually something, even if it's a small thing. Eventually a lot of small improvements add up. You can try recording your games even just locally so it's not streamed online, so you can watch them back later.

Vorpal
05-27-2014, 07:10 PM
I go spend a bunch of gold spinning chests :D It's a fun mechanic and usually makes me feel better.

Xexist
05-27-2014, 10:58 PM
I usually just have a hissy fit and then feel bad that Im being a baby.

AdamAoE2
05-28-2014, 09:02 PM
Losing streaks continuing for me, argh. Been several days since I won a draft now. I thought I drafted a pretty solid deck here with this one: http://i.imgur.com/yK9NIbN.png but ended up getting rocked by a dwarf deck.